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(@Thomas Legbandt)
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Sparton was the vendor for the Hudson's horns, at least the early ones through 1950 or so. I have a 1928 Hudson, and it had a pair of trumpet horns, Sparton model LA, from the pile of parts when I bought the car. I consider that they once were on the front, even though they weren't factory I want to put they back, and make the car even more classy. So I fixed them and they sound fine. The back dome shaped cover is badly dented on one, and pieces are broken out of the other, probably from the minor fender bender that stopped the car years ago. The covers fasten with a single screw in the top of the dome, and have an ID of 5.00 inch. As far as I'm concerned, I'll use a tin can if it would fit, but can't find anything anywhere unless it's fop a Ford.

Can anyone tell me where I could find something to use?. .

Tom in NJ


 
Posted : 14/09/2020 7:32 am
(@stevenh4151)
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Tom could you post a picture of the domes you need I have a set of new Ford ones and I also just had some others made new for my EA lab horns Imay have what you need Tom Lynch in MN


 
Posted : 14/09/2020 8:38 am
(@Thomas Legbandt)
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This is what the horn cover and other parts looks like. This one is completely cracked and split inside. The brass was brittle from age, and now held together by the plating. The picture doesn't convey the extent of the damage; the shell is in pieces. Strange thing is that the horns are nickle plated.

The cover appears to be 2.850 inches from the rim plane to the edge of the tapered dimple for the flathead cover screw. On one edge of the cover, there is a steel strip held on by three iron rivets. Under the strip was a sheet of rubber with unknown purpose. This rubber sheet was on the opposite side from the wire entrance hole that had a rubber grommet compressed around a rubber tube covering the wires. This was offset by about 150 deg, so there is a right and left cover for the right and left horns. Does anyone have any idea of the rubber sheet dimensions and purpose? It must have been on the upper side as the cover must have been mounted sideways for the rim held mounting bracket (not shown) to be on top.


 
Posted : 14/09/2020 12:46 pm
(@obermeier)
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F.Y.I., the original horn for 1928 Hudson and Essex was a E..A. Laboratories Mileaway Model S, "Oogah" motor type, mounted on the left side of the cylinder block. You will see two studs there for the purpose.


 
Posted : 14/09/2020 2:17 pm
(@Thomas Legbandt)
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Really. A horn that sounds like a Ford? I dunno about that.

Didn't have that with the car, but I did pick-up a substitute one from Hershey in 2017 that beeps. It's now on my engine for show after a major fixing up, still good for $15. A pull switch on the dash selects which relay to connect to the horn button. So either the engine horn or the front nickle plated horns under the head lights will sound as needed - if I can get a cover for the messed up one worked out.


 
Posted : 15/09/2020 10:24 am
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The E.A. horn does not sound like a Ford. Much louder, deeper, and definitely more aggressive.


 
Posted : 15/09/2020 2:06 pm
(@Thomas Legbandt)
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I searched on Google for the horn, finding two E.A. horns on eBay. One is nice for $80, and one not-so-nice (crumpled trumpet) for $70. There are also a few on eBay Canada, and one of them has the right bracket mount $94.58 with shipping. Is it worth it? I'm considering.....

The one that I got from Hershey, is a Delco-Remy K-31, which as far as I can find, was originally intended for a 1932 - 1936 Chevy. I'm considering.....

Do I still worry about horn originality if I painted my car non-standard colors? (Looks so sharp with the nickle contrast and a pair of horns out front.)

Still hoping to find the dome cover for one horn.

/Tom


 
Posted : 16/09/2020 6:46 am
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E.A. made various models of Horn, including ordinary diaphragm type. The Mileaway Model S is a motor type. Over to you to do what you want, it's your car.


 
Posted : 16/09/2020 10:17 am
(@Thomas Legbandt)
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I was looking at pictures of this E.A. Labs Model 'S' horn, and see that the motor is not coaxial with the trumpet. It's going to interest me to take it apart and see how the sound is made. Can't wait. Is it not like an air turbine siren?

Ok..., you've talked me into it. I'll get one from eBay with my stimulus check.

Nothing like a three horned car. Still looking for a replacement Sparton LA dome.


 
Posted : 16/09/2020 11:39 am
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The motor is offset, and has a ratchet on the end which rotates against a notched wheel, which in turn is attached to a steel diaphragm. There is an adjustment which adjusts the tension of the armature against the diaphragm to give the required sound..


 
Posted : 16/09/2020 12:35 pm
(@Thomas Legbandt)
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Geoff, from your description, I definitely want to take it apart when it gets here from Oregon. I'll post pictures of the pieces. Sure hope it is fixable.

Meanwhile, I'm hoping that Tom Lynch might have a replacement for the cracked cover on the Sparton LA Trumpets.


 
Posted : 17/09/2020 6:58 am
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Hi Tom sorry to tell you all I have is covers for the Hudson and Terraplane trumpet horns for 1935 & 1936 they are EA LAB horns if you can not find any I may be able to put you in touch with a person who spins metal he did the ones for me and they are great looking and they fit great.


 
Posted : 17/09/2020 1:58 pm

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