I want to replace the fan belt on my 1947 Commodore Six. The fan belt on the car now is a B.F. Goodrich 125. NAPA doesn't have any cross reference for a currently available belt. I'd appreciate it if someone can give me the information I need to find a new correct belt.
Thanks, Robert Gilzean
We have this part as well. thanks Doug our website is www.wrphet.com
Robert,
Odd that NAPA couldn't find it. My info shows it available there (our po-dunk town NAPA has two on hand), # NBH 2528454.
That doesn't guarantee that it's correct, though. It's a "toothed" belt which is nice for those thick, stiff ones.
Frank
Thank you for your reply. I will probably purchase the fan belt at our local NAPA store if they have it or can get it, which they probably can. I did check out your website and I see some items I'll need as the work on my car continues. Thanks again, Robert Gilzean
Thanks, Frank, for your reply. I think they may be able to find it now that I can furnish them a current part number. Your help is greatly appreciated. Robert Gilzean
Robert,
Don't hesitate to ask me anything......but don't expect the right answer every time!
That number is correct according to the NAPA website, but I can't absolutely confirm that it is. You know computers......garbage in, garbage out.
Frank
Frank, I picked up the fan belt from NAPA today, and it's a beauty. It is the exact size of the belt that was on the car, so I'm sure it will work. Since you said i could ask you anything, I'll ask you about engine compartment colors. I'm painting the engine silver, and I think that the various accessories, such as the fan, linkage, etc., should be painted black. Of course, the generator, starter and Air Cleaner, are black. What color should the water pump be? I'll also ask you another question here. We started to remove the distributor points to replace them, but we are waiting for some advice. It appears that if we lift the points off of the post it might cause the spring to get bent as it has to be taken from under the bolt which secures it to the side of the distributor case. If I'm making sense you probably know why I am hesitant here. Any thoughts?
Hello Frank, I wrote a reply to your message, and I asked you two questions. I'm not seeing my reply and wonder if i didn't submit it. One of my questions was about how to properly remove the distributor points on the '47 Six without bending the spring, and the other, I believe, was whether my belief that the engine accessories, such as water pump, fan, and linkage, should be painted black. In asking you these questions I'm taking you up on your offer to be of help to me on other subjects. I live in Chico, CA, and I see by looking in the Roster, that you live in Shelton, WA. I can also see why you have a lot of knowledge of Hudsons. That's quite a list of cars you have. You're a lucky guy!! Robert Gilzean
Frank, Now that I've written you a second time about the same subjects my earlier message is shown. Maybe I wasn't patient enough!!
Robert Gilzean
Robert,
I'm glad the belt was correct.
I have done a bit of reading/looking and think I may have an explanation for the inverted orientation of the breaker points spring. I have seen that before but didn't give it much thought. I just figgered I didn't know what I was doing......that usually turns out to be correct, but in this case I think I was a victim of the same thing you are. See if you can follow this:
I have a box of "Shurhit" points sets (set #84) that are said to be correct for '37-'47 (possibly other years) , which is [i]almost[/i] true. Comparing the breaker plate for a IGW-4203 (yours) against one for the earlier IGW-4103 (and others similar to it), I see that they are made in mirror image to one another (as it applies to the position of the points). This is because those two distributors rotate in opposite directions. The points sets will mount in either distributor except that a set for the early, pre '40 (distributor down on the side of the engine) will be inverted when installed in the late distributors, which is what you are seeing. Conversely, a set for the later (post '39) will be inverted in the IGW-4103. This is to say that there are two different sets but they sometimes get used in the wrong application.
That doesn't answer your question as to how to remove them, but, as I recall it, I had to get a little brutal with it. I just thought they were made that way and questioned the mental capacity of the engineer who designed it. I suspect that many parts suppliers sold one set for either application and let the user figure it out for himself.
Good luck,
Remember.....I might be wrong.
Frank
Auto-lite supplied 3 different breaker arms for 30s - 40s. Hudson. One had an oblong hole 1934 - 47 8cyl, one had a slot facing up 1939 - 47 and the last facing down 1937 - 38. They all interchange.
Frank, Thank you for going to the trouble to research this for me. If I understand, what I need to do is locate a Shurhit IGW-4103 beaker set, and that will fit correctly with the spring slot headed down. Is that correct? Now I'm looking for a thermostat. Denny, at Wildrick, told me Friday that they might have one and he would have to look to see. He should get back to me Monday. Thanks again for your help.
Robert Gilzean
Eddie, Thanks for your reply. I appreciate the information about Auto-Lite and the three different breaker sets they offered for Hudsons of the 30's and 40's. With your help and Franks i should be able to find the correct set for my car. Robert Gilzean
Robert,
I didn't mean to suggest that the Shurhit set was the only choice......it was just an example of those that were made for the '40-'47 sixes so that the hole had the opening on the correct side. As you've seen, some others will work but present a challenge when changing, especially with the distributor still on the engine.
F
Frank, I assumed there might be others, and I'll try to find the one that will fit easily with the spring slot faced down. Thanks again for your help! Robert Gilzean
