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(@pontiacray)
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I've a bit of a problem......my 36 Terraplane 61 runs like a champ (orig. 212).......but the choke has to be at half mast even when warmed up! HELP!! The gaskets have all been replaced, including intake manifold , carb base, etc. Also, the carb was pro rebuilt - altho I didn't do it, so can't say the steps taken/parts replaced/adjustments made. Also, all plugs, fittings etc. on the manifold are tight/good. I have not tried it with the air cleaner on, but I would not think that would change the outcome. Fuel pump is putting out adequate pressure (I tested it). Your advice and experience would sure be appreciated!


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 1:58 pm
(@tallent-r)
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After 40 years I'm still an amateur, but....doesn't this mean that there may be a vacuum leak somewhere? This is diluting the fuel mixture and thus you have to run the engine with the choke partially shut in order to increase fuel-to-air?


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 3:41 pm
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Is the windshield wiper tubing connected at both ends and in good condition . . . no cracks, etc.? (Once during some engine work I forgot to reconnect the wiper hose to the manifold fitting. Drove me nuts going through all the not-so-obvious possible causes).


 
Posted : 23/07/2015 1:41 am
 ok54
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Take vacuum readings, cold, warm, hot, choke closed, 1/2 way, and open. Putting the air cleaner will enrich the mixture slightly. It sounds like you have a leak somewhere or the carb is set too lean..


 
Posted : 23/07/2015 1:49 am
(@Rob Hesselmann)
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Badly worn carb shaft bushings (vacuum leak) can cause this, as well as incorrect or dirty jets.

Rob


 
Posted : 23/07/2015 2:38 am
(@pontiacray)
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Thanks for all the great ideas!! I will do the vacuum checks as well as check all connections again. Also, I will open the carb and check it carefully....just to make sure no dirt, loose shafts, improper adjustments.


 
Posted : 23/07/2015 1:11 pm
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If it runs fine with the choke half out then it is not a fuel supply problem. My guess would be blocked main jet, or metering pin incorrectly installed. This would be a Carter W1 originally. I had a similar problem years ago, and the ear of the actuator was on the wrong side.
Geoff


 
Posted : 23/07/2015 8:32 pm
(@pontiacray)
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Thank you for the additional ideas! My next step is to pull the carb and carefully check it over - first for sediment, etc. It's a 331S - orig. carb. I have rebuilt other Carters but not this this type. I have an early Motors manual as well as the Hudson mechanical procedures manual....is there a more detailed reference that I should try to obtain?


 
Posted : 24/07/2015 1:15 pm
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That stye carb was used from 1932 to 1936, both 6 and 8's. It takes special tools to remove all the jets, which I have, as using screw drivers jams the threads and then the carb is JUNK. Some jets are at least 1&1/2 inches inside the carb BODY, holes smaller than 1/8 inch. Walt.


 
Posted : 24/07/2015 1:41 pm
(@nevada-hudson)
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I had a similar problem with a Stude pickup with the Champion "6"; it turned out to be a "booger" in one of the jets. A simple clean out and then it ran great.


 
Posted : 24/07/2015 4:30 pm
(@pontiacray)
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Thanks for the heads-up Walt...... Do you have the tools available for purchase?


 
Posted : 25/07/2015 2:05 am
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Jared,

How is the idling? Does it idle with the choke pushed in? Does it idle on all six cylinders?

Per


 
Posted : 25/07/2015 8:11 am
(@pontiacray)
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No, it stalls right out when not 1/2 choked.....but with the 1/2 choke it idles very smoothly....


 
Posted : 26/07/2015 3:02 am
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Seems to me the low speed jet is blocked.


 
Posted : 26/07/2015 10:44 am
(@jomoali)
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Jared,

I agree with Geoff.

Recently I found that the idling jet on a Hudson Jet carburetor had gotten totally plugged. The engine only ran until the automatic choke opened. It then abruptly stopped. It would only keep running when I held the choke partially closed.

It is good that it idles very smoothly! Dealing with the carburetor should be all that it needs.

Per


 
Posted : 26/07/2015 1:06 pm
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