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(@mikew16165)
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Hi all,

I am looking to do the inside window surrounds on my 1950 Pacemaker. They are currently a grey / silvery colour. Can someone advise what the colour was when new please and and even a modern equivalent paint code. Did they come with wood-grain at all?

Thanks in advance.


 
Posted : 25/01/2015 2:15 pm
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Alistair. Color matched heater box You can get an idea from mine. I'll take photos specifically of window surrounds if you like. I can get a paint formula for you if you;re interested. These were never woodgrained, but painted this solid color. Not sure exactly what they used for Chris Reiman;s Pacemaker, but ask him, he also has an opinion and I;m sure he researched it.


 
Posted : 25/01/2015 5:48 pm
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Thanks Tim, if you do have time for a photo of the surrounds and a if a paint code is known that is also a huge help.
If Chris is out there and can add some information hopefully he will chip in!
I guess that if wood grain was an option it may have only been on the senior cars?

Thanks again


 
Posted : 26/01/2015 4:57 am
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Trying to find paint code. Senior cars, Commodore, had Leathergrain I think unless they were chrome. Leathergrain was either bluish and grey or the typical brown codes. Pacemaker was low price, so not fancy. Will send some pictures.


 
Posted : 27/01/2015 7:31 am
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Alistar here are some pcitures. and the paint code.


 
Posted : 27/01/2015 6:27 pm
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one picture left out. The hand brake, steering column/shifter, garnish moldings, heater box were all painted this color. Is it exact? I don't know for sure. Did the best I could to come up with something close.


 
Posted : 27/01/2015 6:30 pm
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cross reference with Deltron 4385 in other words. Don't think this had any other special tinting.


 
Posted : 27/01/2015 6:31 pm
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That is great Tim, the photos are great, many thanks. I will check with my paint guy and see if he can recognise the code and will go from there. Will let you know.


 
Posted : 28/01/2015 5:32 am
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Alistar:
Stupid question........what is meant by "senior car"/

J


 
Posted : 28/01/2015 5:48 am
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Longer wheelbase models seem to be referred to as Senior cars - Pacemaker has the shorter wheelbase 119" compared to 124" for the Commodore and Super Six models.


 
Posted : 28/01/2015 7:21 am
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J,

The Senior and Junior nomenclature may have gotten started by Packard enthusiasts, referring to the late 1930s Packards. Packard, known for big cars, dealt with the depression by coming out with smaller cars. The big ones (Senior) were regarded to be "Classic" cars, while the smaller ones (Junior) were not, and were referred to with distain! Nowadays at Packard meets, all Packards are welcomed.

For step-down Hudsons, the Commodore and the Hornet are definitely "Senior", and the Pacemaker "Junior". I don't know where the Super fits!

Per


 
Posted : 28/01/2015 7:39 am
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It would seem to me that the "Super" Series would also qualify as a 'Senior' if the wheel base is the one qualifying item. Particularly, by 1951 the Super Series was very nicely trimmed both outside and inside.


 
Posted : 28/01/2015 9:27 am
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when I say senior cars, I mean the LWB cars such as SUpers and Commodores/Hornets. That would apply for 39-42 cars where they had both short and long wheel base Hudsons and for 50-54 Hudssons. Similar for 55-56 AMC Hudsons I think. 46-49 were all the same wheelbase and were Supers and commodores.


 
Posted : 28/01/2015 7:50 pm
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As this thread is about colors and coating - mine Senior 1950 has the brown color.
What is the best way to restore the surface of the dashboard?
Haven't touched it yet. Will first clean it, but it has several spots. Is that a plain brown color is is that supposed to reflect some kind of graining?


 
Posted : 29/01/2015 10:53 am
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Dirk, I'm not positive, but think they were similar to commodore but teh dashes didn't have all the chrome trim etc on the Supers. For 1950, those items were 'leather" grained. Have done those, Hers's a picture from my 48 cadillac parts I did. We will be posting leather grain or the 51 Hornet soon and for 41 Hudson car woodgrain. Those came in 2 colors for 1950 Hudsons. Blue and gray leather grain and brown tone leather grain. Try taking off the glvoebox door, or a window garnish to look what the pattern is where it has been protected.


 
Posted : 29/01/2015 2:36 pm
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