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(@roninscho)
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I got my WTN today. It's full of fluff and not much substance as usual. The real reason I had to sit down and write this is due to choice of the cover car photo. I have nothing at all against the owner of the red Hollywood, I'm sure he's a great guy and all. But don't we have any standards as to what is appropriate for use as a WTN cover car? We have some very nice original and accurately restored Hudsons in HET. Why not use one of them for the cover? Is it all about the numbers game of "reaching out" to the "modified" crowd? If so, you're going to run off the people who think that Hudson did a nice job building Hudsons without some wrench jockey trying to reinvent the wheel. And then there's the case of the French Lick national meet report issue. Cover car was a Metropolitan........ a badge engineered Nash....And there were some primo Hudsons at French Lick..... Come on.... let's feature real Hudsons. It's not like they don't exist.
And while I'm at it, what the heck are we doing selling booze in a "family" club?


 
Posted : 14/11/2014 11:29 am
(@tallent-r)
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Never thought of the contents of the WTN as being "fluff" before. That's a certainly a novel perspective!

To be sure, there are some modified cars here and there in the magazine, but I've always thought that the WTN devoted most of its space to the original ones. I've never done an analysis of the covers, but my gut feeling is that most of the cars there, too, have been originals. And the WTN also features cars that are pretty representative of all periods of Hudson's existence. Most existing Hudsons nowadays are from the Step-Down era yet you're as likely to see a 1920's Hudson on the cover, as a Step-Down.

And as to alcohol.....well, I don't know that many teetotalers in the Club. Most of us are grownup and do a pretty good job of behaving ourselves after a drink of beer or two, so I doubt that the WTN is leading us down any road to perdition that we haven't already traveled.


 
Posted : 14/11/2014 5:43 pm
(@Fred Grey)
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I'm sorry, have been a member since Sept and have never seen a WTN. What is that?


 
Posted : 15/11/2014 8:19 am
 Skag
(@skag)
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White Triangle News. It's one of the best publications in the world by a single brand club. Only published every other month, but always has something for everyone. I subscribe to several "old Car" magazines that I later pass on to the local high School auto shop class. I keep my WTN's. For me I enjoy the tech articles, Dave Kava'a articles and the classifieds. Like I said.. Something for everyone. Sometimes they feature a few "CLabbered up" cars.. LOL


 
Posted : 15/11/2014 10:15 am
(@tallent-r)
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Fred, if you sent in your membership blank and payment in September, you should receive the current issue in the mail before long (and the Roster as well). Of course, "when" you receive the magazine depends upon whether you paid for the first-class mailing or the regular mailing, when you joined the club. (First class costs more to send, so its a more expensive membership than the regular one.) I just got my WTN a couple days ago, mailed first-class. But the "regular" mailing could come as late as the first week of December.


 
Posted : 15/11/2014 3:01 pm
(@fisher)
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I believe the WTN is done by volunteers who depend on members to submit articles and photos for publication. As such they do a fine job. I look forward to getting mine every few months, especially in the winter when I don't drive my Hudson.

If you consider the content "fluff" you could take the time to write an article yourself as well as submit some photos.

But please don't disparage those who volunteer their time.


 
Posted : 16/11/2014 2:21 am
(@Fred Grey)
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I receive several magazines and think they are exception quality and obviously take a lot of effort to produce.
I eagerly await my first copy of WTN. Mr. Coffin was likely be hind the magazine in 1910 and probably a leader in promoting vehicles and especially Hudson.
I have contacted some members and given material that should be shared with all car fans and the public


 
Posted : 16/11/2014 3:36 am
(@roninscho)
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[quote="Jon Battle" post=7731]Never thought of the contents of the WTN as being "fluff" before. That's a certainly a novel perspective!

To be sure, there are some modified cars here and there in the magazine, but I've always thought that the WTN devoted most of its space to the original ones. I've never done an analysis of the covers, but my gut feeling is that most of the cars there, too, have been originals. And the WTN also features cars that are pretty representative of all periods of Hudson's existence. Most existing Hudsons nowadays are from the Step-Down era yet you're as likely to see a 1920's Hudson on the cover, as a Step-Down.

And as to alcohol.....well, I don't know that many teetotalers in the Club. Most of us are grownup and do a pretty good job of behaving ourselves after a drink of beer or two, so I doubt that the WTN is leading us down any road to perdition that we haven't already traveled.

I recognize that this is a battle which can't be won because even though I've been a member of HET since 1970, I'm always going to be an outsider because I can't keep my mouth shut when things seem amiss... but I have to say Mr. Battle that you totally miss the point. I feel there should be standards set as to what should define a "cover car" for the WTN. If HET wants to salute non authentic cars, so be it. I guess that those of us who don't agree can leave. And as far as the booze quotient goes........I could care less how many tee totalers there may or may not be in HET, nor do I care what you choose to ingest or amuse yourself with.... but I think it's hypocritical to call this a "family club" and put the National meet off to the hottest part of the summer so that teachers and students can attend the meet....and then try to sell them Wine. If nothing else, the membership should have been polled before branding the HET club as a purveyor of booze.


 
Posted : 16/11/2014 5:54 am
(@gjevne)
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Wow, if you don't have a 1920s Hudson, get one! Then you can feel prohibition at your side. I don't know who actually owns all the rights to Hudson logos, etc. but I can say surely, even as one who is single, that the Hudson Club is a family club. I have never seen anyone in this club at the national or regional or local level engage in bad behavior where booze of any kind was available. People have always tried to produce items for the club that remind them of their favorite vehicles and which incorporate other interests that they have. You're a member in long standing it sounds like, so enjoy the club for what it is; when you try to remake everyone in your image, it becomes less fun. Variety is the spice of life for most of us.


 
Posted : 16/11/2014 7:08 am
(@nstuecklenwi-net)
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I thought the little red Metropolitan was just darlin'. Too cute for words.

Somewhere I heard this club is for folks who like Hudsons of whatever sripe for whatever reason.

I think the 1934-35 Terraplanes are beautiful; they look the way a 1933-34 Ford would have looked it Ford had got it right.

I'm not too crazy about the Step-down cars; they're big inside and comfortable to ride in or drive, and you can't forget their racing success. But they just don't have it in the looks department except for maybe the 1954 models.

That this is a non-judging club (A great decision made by the founders, I suppose) assures it can evolve to serve the membership as needed. Otherwise it would surely die.

In the meantime, come one, come all. The water's fine.


 
Posted : 16/11/2014 10:45 am
(@kitterman)
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Regarding the complaints about the WTN magazine, if you don't like something you have 3 choices,
1) terminate your membership
2) help out and make things better
3) suck it up and keep your negative comments to yourself

Sorry for venting but I know how hard it is to do the work of being a contributor to an organization.

Ed


 
Posted : 17/11/2014 12:14 am
(@tallent-r)
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Well, I would say that if someone sees something they disagree with, they have a right (as a member of the organization) to complain. After all, how else would the editor or Club get feedback?

Still, the concept that the editor should be constrained by some sort of written policy on what Hudson models he may or may not use on the WTN cover, seems like micro managing in the extreme.

As to the sale of alcoholic beverages with the Club's name on them, that is probably an issue that should be addressed with the Board of Directors, if people feel strongly about it.


 
Posted : 17/11/2014 3:30 am
(@35terraplane)
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Y'all got to just know that sooner or later I was going to jump into this bruha with both feet.
1st off I've been a member of this great club for 45 years. That's a hell of a long time to be interested in something, especially when because of kids, bills and being a grunt in the military which didn't bring in much money for much of that 45 years. So because of that I haven't had a Hudson in my driveway most of the time. I've never, ever been looked down on because of not having a Hudson. I've been accepted as one of the family.
In the 2nd place this club is a "Family" club - no trophy, no judging, bring what you got and let it all hang out family. There appear to be a few people with negative comments, and I support their right to dissent, who must have perfect family's where, as Garrison Keeler says on the Prarie Home Companion, all the women are strong, all the men are good looking and all the kids are above average. This ain't a perfect world folks - every family has it's eccentrics and crazy grandpa's in the closet. H-E-T is the same. We all have a love for Hudson built automobiles and if somebody chooses to modify their car remember this fact - it is their car, it is their money, so they can damned well do what they like with it. The point is stock or modified it's still a Hudson that isn't in the junkyard.
I'll close this out with a nugget that was handed to me when my marriage broke up and I was getting ready to move to Memphis. I was on the planning committee for the 2008 National and at the last session I attended in 2007 a wonderful lady came up to me and said "Always remember, Alex, you will always have your Hudson family!!" That sums the club up, at least for me, and has for 45 great years.

Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
Memphis, TN


 
Posted : 17/11/2014 7:34 am
(@jairomedina)
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What I said in the other forum was this:

"As an ex-editor of a club magazine I know how hard it was to try and get people to contribute. A lot of my time was spent chasing people for articles and even when they arrived the actual editing of said article was another bunch of time.

The magazine is there to help promote the club and I think that anything that helps that deserves a place on the cover. We can't all afford #1 (or even #2) cars and to those people that work to keep them on the road I say "well done"

I have been trying to think of things to write in terms of articles or even drop-ins. I have a couple of ideas that I'd like to move forward and will hopefully do so soon but until they appear then they are of no use to Sam at all. Difficult to have a blank page with "Coming Soon" on it

I have no problems at all with what is on/in the magazine. I appreciate the effort that goes into it and , as I said, know from first hand experience how hard it can be"


 
Posted : 17/11/2014 8:07 am
(@Terry Irvin)
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I must have received a different copy of the WTN than the original poster. Mine has great articles in it by knowledgeable people and the back has wonderful pages of resources for parts, sheetmetal, services or anything else Hudson. I think the cover was the same though, a beautiful '54 that I would love to own. As to the alcohol- common- it's only a bottle of wine.


 
Posted : 19/11/2014 2:12 am
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