I recently bought a Hudson project car without a title. I found a number on the frame that reads either I059269 or 1059269, no other numbers on the body I can find. Can someone tell me what I got. It's a 2 door coupe with out an engine. I think its a 1941 because it has non built in running boards. Thank you from Iowa, Chad
It is 1941, either Traveler or Deluxe, which were the short wheel base models that year. They all begin with "10" for the numbers. Traveler lacked stainless window reveal moldings and the Deluxe had a nicer interior. So if you windshield lacks stainless trim around it in the front, or back, it's probably a Traveler.
If I remember correctly the Travelers didn't have a wing vent window in the front doors; the DeLuxe did - or the other way around.
Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
Memphis, TN
The Hudson does have the trim around the windows and the door wing vent windows too. So is the #number I got off the frame the actual vin#?
And is there a print out somewhere of the vin numbers meanings that I could copy to help get a bonded Title? Thank you, Chad
Chad - stop by the online library some nice HET member put together for us :whistle: - http://hetclub.org/burr/lithomepage.htm
Under 1909-1919 Reference Sheets you'll find a Hudson, et al, serial number listing that should do the job for you.
To interpret your serial number (vin if you prefer, but back in the day they were called serial numbers) the first two digits - "10" are the model number. The remainder are the serial number.
I won't go into the model listing here - you'll find them in the Serial Number booklet. The only thing DMV might give you grief about is that there are two Model 10's listed (we all know about beaurecrats. don't we) - 40T Traveler and 40P DeLuxe. Perhaps you could also take a copy of the posts giving the differences between the 40T and 40P.
Hope all this helps.
Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
Memphis, TN
Chad,
Your car was originally a 10P, or Hudson Deluxe then.
The serial number on the frame is the same as on the tag (if you had one) and for the original engine (if you had that). So that is the number that would be on your title.
My experience is that the letter is never on the title. Titles don't make not of a model number, but serial number/VIN and body style (2 dr sedan for example). The tag had a box for the letter code T, P, or C. That was followed by a bigger box for the serial number. I have never seen the letters on any of my titles, even though Hudson and others refer to them as 10P or 10C, they were never really written in that order on the vehicle. Note that the larger passenger cars, Supers and COmmodores had no letter in that box on the serial number tag -- they were denoted by the first two number which model it was. 11 = Super, 12 = Commodore, and so forth.
I don't know the requirements where you live, but customarily, you have to take your vehicle to a state police inspection area, have them look at the serial number on the frame of the actual vehicle and fill out the necessary paperwork. Then you can proceed to file for the title. Most agencies prefer the number off the frame anyway for a title as engines and tags can be changed. So if you figure out how to do that, you're good to go. The club used to sell some reproduction tags, though I'm not sure they sold them for this year of vehicle. Good luck!
The reason for the state police check, in some states, is to find stolen vehicles. At least in Massachusetts.
Hudsonly,
Alex B
