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(@Patrik Heinrichs)
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Seems like Dave Konstansek is THE MAN!!
He has 1 probably 3 conrods for us and is bringing them on the way to Europe these minutes from Ohio!!

You guys are u n b e l i e v a b l e !

Thank you sooooo much.

If we are making it to the states with Hudo we HAVE to meet you in person!!
ALL of you!!!

Patrik


 
Posted : 05/09/2014 12:57 am
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Just got on to this post so just to correct a mistake, 1930 did not have a oil light it has a gauge.


 
Posted : 05/09/2014 9:46 am
(@Patrik Heinrichs)
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Hi Spencer,
so then it was right to blame the change to the "idiot light"..

But as I've learned, the oil pressure is not so important on thes splash oiled engines as it is on pressure oiled ones .
Thanks


 
Posted : 05/09/2014 12:01 pm
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According to the '30-'36 master Chassis Part Book, The so-called check valve was the same one for '30 and '31. No matter, 'cause the function of that valve was the same for all "splashers" 'til the end in '52. Without it, there is no pressure to sense. The spring loaded plunger is the device used to generate some resistance to oil flow in the rear oil delivery line (only) and is the grounding path for the indicator light. When it's sitting on the contact pin, the light goes on. When oil flow raises it off the pin, the light goes off. Aside from that and frictional resistance to flow, there is no pressure anywhere in a Splasher.
Frank


 
Posted : 06/09/2014 4:22 am
(@Patrik Heinrichs)
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Hello Frank,
thank so much for explaining me that.
Driving mostly post WW2 cars I'm most concerned about oil pressure and pressure lights if they show low numbers or just flicker ,
Normal procedure would be to shut of engine and find the reason before killing an engine. So when the light startet flickering in lower revs after 4000 km of our journey I was highly alarmed. But knowing the facts now it's much better!

Question is only why it wasn't flickering at the beginning in Berlin to east Turkey ...
Is the oil degradation probably the reason?
We use single grade W30 oil and haven't changed that for 6000 km.
What intervals would you recommend with modern oils and is it possible to use multigrade 10W30 or 10w40 oils ??

Cheers Patrik

@all does anyone has a cellphone number of Dave Kostansek?? pleas PM me, as he is on a trip to the countryside since Friday and I have to reach him about the shipping of the conrods..

Patrik


 
Posted : 06/09/2014 4:08 pm
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Patrik,
I see in that same book that the '30 to '33 Eights also had what appears to be an oil level gauge (or more likely a low-level indicator) that also illuminated a light, possibly the same one. Others will know more about that than I. If the reservoir still had sufficient oil in it when the failure occurred then low level wasn't the cause.
The flashing of the light is not unusual at low rpm (idle) with hot oil. It will appear much as a healthy heartbeat, about 50 flashes per minute because the pump expels oil in pulses, At low rpm (like 600 rpm idle), the pump is giving pulses at the rate of 1/12th of crankshaft speed or 600/12 pulses per minute. (if the ratio is the same as the later splashers)
The tendency to flash under these conditions is dependent mostly on oil viscosity, pump/check valve fit and the strength of the spring that returns the check-valve plunger to its seat against the electrical contact. So...it may not flash at start-up, but do so after the oil is hot.
I wish not to be a doomsayer, but if one rod failed, there may be 7 others close behind. I assume you will thoroughly inspect the remaining bearings. It is very difficult to completely clean the crankcase and all passages so that the debris from the initial failure doesn't cause a secondary failure after repairs. I'd hate to hear that you had spent the time/effort/money and grief to fix the current issue only to have it happen again, possibly under worse conditions.
Best of luck to you.
Frank


 
Posted : 07/09/2014 5:58 am
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The rod bearing failed because (evidently) the dipper broke off completely. Patrik posted a photo of this\ (on a different thread, which we closed to further replies because it was redundant). I won't say that oil pressure was NOT a problem, but a broken dipper seems to be the obvious first choice as the reason for the failure.


 
Posted : 07/09/2014 6:24 am
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Patrik -- check your Private Message. The information you requested will be e-mailed to you in about 6 hours.


 
Posted : 07/09/2014 8:04 am
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Jon,

I am having a problem when writing fairly long messages. I check the preview, then I click on "submit" and all that happens is that a blank box labeled "message" appears.

I don't know much about creating a message elsewhere and then transferring it to the forum. Is that possible? That way I would still have what I wrote to try to send again.

I just tried to send a message to Patrik, but it got lost.

Per


 
Posted : 07/09/2014 12:15 pm
(@Patrik Heinrichs)
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Hello Per,
my email is heinrichs@ddb.net

Cheers


 
Posted : 07/09/2014 12:19 pm
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Per, I'm sorry you're having a problem.

1. For some reason, the forum has experienced a "delay" lately. If (for example) you post a reply (and hit SUBMIT), your reply is not immediately posted beneath the previous message. Only if you "refresh" your screen does it become visible. I don't know why this is happening. So, maybe when you hit the SUBMIT button your message actually posted --- but you didn't see it because you hadn't "refreshed".

2. If you want to back up the message you just wrote, before hitting SUBMIT and possibly losing it, simply highlight the message with your cursor, right click while the message is highlighted, and choose "COPY". Now, your message is "remembered" by your computer. So, let's say that you then push SUBMIT and the whole message is lost. Merely place your cursor in the blank message box, right-click, and choose "PASTE". At that moment, every bit of what you just copied, spills out onto the page.


 
Posted : 07/09/2014 1:37 pm
(@Patrik Heinrichs)
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PER reached me via Email and we have exchanged stuff.

Thanks


 
Posted : 07/09/2014 7:04 pm
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There are no idiot lights on 30 Hud. the oil level indicator is in the fuel gauge the face of the gauge has gas or oil printed on it, when the ignition is turned on it shows the fuel level if you press the button located between the ign. switch and the starter button the gauge will show the oil level in the sump hope this clears this up.I will try to get a photo tomorrow.


 
Posted : 07/09/2014 8:34 pm
(@Patrik Heinrichs)
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Thanks to all of you, Hudson fans, the conrod that traveled such a long way from Dave Kostansek's Home in Ohio around half of the world here to Buchara Uzbekistan went directly into Hudos engine after arrival!!

And today we will test it

THANK YOU ALL!!

Team HHP (Hudo-theh car, Heidiand Patrik


 
Posted : 14/09/2014 3:44 pm
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[quote="Patrik Heinrichs" post=7010]Thanks to all of you, Hudson fans, the conrod that traveled such a long way from Dave Kostansek's Home in Ohio around half of the world here to Buchara Uzbekistan went directly into Hudos engine after arrival!!

And today we will test it

THANK YOU ALL!!

Team HHP (Hudo-theh car, Heidiand Patrik

One would think that after 45 years in the HET club nothing would surprise me - but it's things like this that still continue to amaze me.

Hudsonly,
Alex B


 
Posted : 14/09/2014 4:59 pm
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