I want a 1934 Terraplane water pump core. I understand 1934 and 1935 models used the same waterpump.
I want the core to experiment with adding Torrington needle bearings and modern seals.
I'm also looking for OEM type 1934 Terraplane tie rod ends, the (so far) elusive sealed ball bearing type.
I understand they were used on 1933, 1934, 1935 cars and were changed to the kind seen today sometime in 1936 ("second type" in 1934-37 Mechanical Procedures Manual.)
I am not an expert reader of old Hudson Motor Car Company parts manuals, but some are.
Dig in those boxes of parts and junk and find these pieces for me, please. Thank you.
I would consider NOS, good used, not so good used, and just about anything that could become an exemplar that demonstrated the components and construction of the part.
Evening Bob, I took a run thru the 1930-1939 Master Chassis Parts book and found the following, that might help you:
Water Pump part no. BM 47174 - 1934-1935 Hudson 8; 1934 Terraplane K, KS; 1935 Terraplane. A note with this part number says Use 151932 for service - this number is for 1939 models 95, 97 (Hudsons).
1934 Terraplane Model KU is part number BM 47175 - Use 151933 (1939 Model 93) for service.
A note with this part number says Use 151932 for service - this number is for 1939 models 95, 97 (Hudsons).
Might help a little and give you a wider range to search for.
Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
Seems strange that [u]only[/u] a 1939 pump would retro-fit the earlier (1934-35) pump. It would seem logical that the '36, 37, 38 pumps would fit as well. I wonder if Hudson was essentially saying, "when replacing the earlier pump, order the newest version of this from your dealer, which is the 1939 pump."
But of course, "logic" may have had nothing to do with it...
There is no way for any 36 and up water pump to fit a 34/35 six or 8 cyl engine. The 34-5 pump bolts to the front of the cylinder head. 36 & up bolt to the engine block.
Thank everyone who posted.
I think it's also true that while the 1934-5 pump connects to the side of the water jacket down low, the 1936-up pump connects to the (flat horizontal) top of the (different) 1936-up water jacket; both pumps having nozzles to suit their hose connections.
Also, the few 1934-5 pumps I have seen (rebuilt no one knows how many times or by whom) resemble the pump in the Mechanical Procedures Manual, but are not close to identical to it. Some original features are just gone on the rebuilt pumps.
I'm still looking for a good 1934-5 water pump core.
Don't shoot the messenger - I'm just posting what the 1930-1939 Master Chassis parts catalog has to say!!! :silly:
Hudsonly,
Alex B
Alex: I understand but I wanted to clarify the info.
Robert: The 34-5 pump does not connect to the water jacket at all, the coolant exits out of the lower pipe of the water jacket and goes directly to the lower radiator hose connection.
YOU are CORRECT. SHAME on ME. I got too carried away with it. Lo siento !
In 1934, cooling system design was still in the Stone Age, and many cars had a pump-assisted thermo-syphon, which is almost (not quite)a total waste of the pump.
Model T Fords did just fine with a thermo-syphon and ran boiling because they had no pump to complicate things.
Model T fords were "steam" cooled. :woohoo:
Hudsonly,
Alex B
Yup.
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